Telangana Need and Justification
- Thread starter Jai Prakash Narayan
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Bingo! buddy....
wow u hav such excitement
say buddy,how can development be defined?
To whose benifit,your so called 'hyderabad development' has been done?
I ask u sincerely,do u really believe our locals who stayhere has any benifit,any new facilty u could remember has it been established for us locals hyderabadis,telanganaites here?
Did you ever heared how hyderbadi tehzeeb is teased by you people?
say how much telagana culture u know was accepted,allowed to mix with u people,say how many telanganaite's have developed in u r andhra or seema?
let me know how much of any telengana districts were able to develop into a city to level of vijaywada/vizag or chitoor?
U developed hyderabad(that's wat u say)to ur own needs,benefits,rejecting any cultural link with hyderabadi tehzeeb,alienating our own people in our own land,u have denied us our own resources.
putting up some buildings,getting IT industry is not development.
U should also know even the lands we stay are being devoured by you,not simply a city it's buildings are called development,look all 10 districts around us which were never paid any attention,name a project which has been built,now being used for telanganaite's.
A district having two rivers flowing through it is constanly,consistenly drought prone a point u should observe,howmuch samaikyandraite you may be.
wow u hav such excitement
say buddy,how can development be defined?
To whose benifit,your so called 'hyderabad development' has been done?
I ask u sincerely,do u really believe our locals who stayhere has any benifit,any new facilty u could remember has it been established for us locals hyderabadis,telanganaites here?
Did you ever heared how hyderbadi tehzeeb is teased by you people?
say how much telagana culture u know was accepted,allowed to mix with u people,say how many telanganaite's have developed in u r andhra or seema?
let me know how much of any telengana districts were able to develop into a city to level of vijaywada/vizag or chitoor?
U developed hyderabad(that's wat u say)to ur own needs,benefits,rejecting any cultural link with hyderabadi tehzeeb,alienating our own people in our own land,u have denied us our own resources.
putting up some buildings,getting IT industry is not development.
U should also know even the lands we stay are being devoured by you,not simply a city it's buildings are called development,look all 10 districts around us which were never paid any attention,name a project which has been built,now being used for telanganaite's.
A district having two rivers flowing through it is constanly,consistenly drought prone a point u should observe,howmuch samaikyandraite you may be.
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Are they facts?
I feel we should give “facts” in “108 facts’ when we make an argument. This post may win innocents Telanganites but not the educated and logical.
Never decide I want Telangana state and then justify by all means.
It is not proper to say something and ask something else. What are the parameters that demand separate state? Do we meet those to demand Telangana? Just because some say there was injustice, we can’t simply accept and agree with them as the answer separate state. We need to see if what they say is in tune with what they are. Are they going to deliver goods? Is it we are choosing deep see to escape from devil? Is it devil at all?
Recalls, when NTR wanted to win elections, his slogans were “self respect of Andhras” and “what congress did in 50 years?” Did he do justice to any of those slogans? With his rice at Rs.2 a kg the coffers were empty! There was no money for any projects. The state went into severe shortages in all sectors. But he still survived by blaming Congress for all the ills. He being Telugu speaking man never respected his own people. Ultimately they were to over through him.
In a website called storyofPakistan.com, I find all the time the webmasters went on to tell the injustice done to Muslims by Hindus and thus justified the need for separate country. In the discussion pages Pakistanis blame all the time India for depriving them of Kashmir, Nizam and Junaghad and separation of Bangladesh from them. The politicians and press keep them busy on these issues to divert them from real issues. Never had they realized that they are the masters now and they are responsible for the state of affairs. They refuse to see growth in India and believe they are still better off than us. That is the blind faith. Please don’t think I am comparing demand from state to country. I am only exposing the interest of politicians in governance and not in real welfare of people.
Growth can’t be obtained from separate state or separate country. It has to be collective sincere effort. A state built on false promises will collapse soon as people expectations would be very high. All the people in Telangana are under the impression that miracles will happen if the Andhra exploiters(?) leave. Will it happen? In their place our own exploiters will take seat and continue to exploit us! We have to live with the birth pangs of new state.
Has anyone told what the repercussions of division are? There must be some gray areas in forming Telangana state. May be we can’t build any projects for next few decades as the water sharing can’t be decided. New capital may attract new projects and deprive us of jobs. We may run short of rice as Andhras will not be obliged to sell their surplus to us.
I wish to give replies to some of 108 facts here under:
1. Telangana inherited surplus budget was a fact. Why surplus, when it is such a backward area. Were there no projects to be taken up? Think carefully. Then you will understand what the state of affairs in our Telangana was at that time.
2. Size of catchment area, even if it is true figure, is not a factor to decide our share, the amount of water flowing in the catchment is major criteria. Do you think districts without river in their land are not eligible for river water?
3. As I know Tribunal was to allocate water between states and not for distribution within a state. Where did you get this data? Which is that tribunal that awarded this?
4. Canals are made with natural flow basis. Lifting back is thought of only if there is surplus after this and is possible only if there is enough power. If power is to be used for supply of water, it is better to go for borewells than using river water. Canals are dug in to areas where there is cultivatable land and not being cultivated for want of water. This gives fast results and hence the surplus in Rice production in AP. Just see even today we are not self sufficient in Power sector. Can you think of irrigation projects that need power to supply water?
5. Regarding list of backward districts, I request you to go back to records before you make such claims. Please see how many districts in Telangana were backward at the time of AP formation and then we should compare. Give list of districts that became forward from backward in AP.
6. What is the percentage of Industries in Telangana compared to Andhra and Rayalaseema? After that owners can be segregated in Telangana. Then also see how many PSUs are in Telangana compared to Seema-andhra. Telangana people will need to go all the way to Andhra region only when they do not find places to invest in Telangana. I wonder why relative of Jaipal reddy was to go all the way to Godavari. Did he not think of developing Telangana. That answers the harassment if any. Andhra people came all the way to Hyderabad because it is capital.
7. If the tenure of Telangana CMs was the factor in growth, Rayala seema should have become most developed. You know ther are several other factors. In fact well developed Godavari districts did not have single CM so far. Another advanced district Krishna could get any one from their district as CM under congress regime. Most powerful Yerram naidu and Devendra Goud in TDP did nothing to their areas when they were in power. So reasons are many for underdevelopment. Solution may not be in new state.
8. Projects must have started as per resources and economics. Huge port is developed at Vizag. Is it proper for everyone on the coast line talks of partiality for developing port at Vizag and depriving their area. Teluguganga was not a project of state. It was made with the money of Tamilnadu for drinking water supply to Tamilnadu. How could you find it a place (that too in first place) here.
9. Super Thermal stations belong to central government. Just because coal is ours we can’t demand full share of it. If minerals are our right, we would never ask for Petrol from Assam, Maharastra and Gas from Andhra (if formed). Nation has rights over it.
10. Free zone? Confused? Are you talking about UT status to Hyderabad? Andhras are foolish to demand for UT status to Hyderabad. It is their ploy to delay Telangana formation.
11. Literacy rate is to be compared not with other areas but with its rate from the time of AP formation. Or else rate of growth is to be compared. Telangana will be in lead if we compare rate of growth in literacy.
12. Same is the case with Hospitals. People from all over the state come to Telangana for treatment. So, who is better off in Medical services?
13. Number of Industries is not a criterion. Total employment is the real issue. The figures you gave are not real.
14. Less we talk about Nagarjun sagar and Polavaram better it is.
15. Excise collections and sales tax collections from Telangana are certainly great. Tell me, are the tax rates more in Telangana than in rest of state? Nop. It is because the production and consumption are more in Telangana. Then all the arguments made so far that our region being neglected are wrong.
16. Number of ‘heads of posts’ held by Telanganaits given here is not true.
17. Libraries were there much before AP formation. Nizam never developed in his area. They were there in Andhra area much before Independence.
18. Jublee hills lands were sold for cash by Telangana owners to buyers. They did not have reservation to sell to Telanganaites.
19. Ration card ‘golmaal’ was universal. If Mehaboobnagar did not get many, either they are sincere or they did not belong to Congress! By the by why did you compare these two districts. Do you want to say there should no ration card in state capital as it is the most developed place in AP?
20. What do you want to say by quoting Ambadkar on suitability of Hyderabad as Country’s capital? Do you want to say Andhras deprived it? If it were to become country’s capital, all the people of the country would have come to Hyderabad. We are unable to bear the presence of other region people in Hyderabad. (see your remark on jublee hills).
21. I think as I said you are not comparing brijal with brinjal. JNTU has set up 2 colleges in Rayala seema is a fact. But are there any more Engg colleges at that time. How many were there in Telangana prior to that. Better learn how those Engg colleges were brought under JNTU. This way of thinking will bring negative thought to us that will kill us soon.
22. Milk rate is based on its quality and several other factors. It is not based on region! I pity the way you are thinking.
23. True Telangana is bigger than 160 countries. But where are those countries? Except a few they do not grow? Did Nizam allow it to be bigger in any way except that he was the richest in the world?
24. You still seem to love Nizam and his Mulki rules. We should learn to excel not stand behind Mulki rules. We have so many private options now. Many of our people are working abroad. Yet you want to hide behind Mulki rules of 1919. What a pity!
25. Agitators get killed, it happened in jai Andhra movement and Vizag steel plant agitation. Do not blame someone else for that. That is hatred not judgment.
26. Water grid is a tall talk similar to Ganga –Godavry link. Better keep off.
Many of your points are somehow built up to reach 108. No worth in those to think of separate state.
One question, how long will it take for all districts in Telangana to be ‘equal’ in development if Separate state is formed? Will there be quota for people of all districts in jobs?
I feel we should give “facts” in “108 facts’ when we make an argument. This post may win innocents Telanganites but not the educated and logical.
Never decide I want Telangana state and then justify by all means.
It is not proper to say something and ask something else. What are the parameters that demand separate state? Do we meet those to demand Telangana? Just because some say there was injustice, we can’t simply accept and agree with them as the answer separate state. We need to see if what they say is in tune with what they are. Are they going to deliver goods? Is it we are choosing deep see to escape from devil? Is it devil at all?
Recalls, when NTR wanted to win elections, his slogans were “self respect of Andhras” and “what congress did in 50 years?” Did he do justice to any of those slogans? With his rice at Rs.2 a kg the coffers were empty! There was no money for any projects. The state went into severe shortages in all sectors. But he still survived by blaming Congress for all the ills. He being Telugu speaking man never respected his own people. Ultimately they were to over through him.
In a website called storyofPakistan.com, I find all the time the webmasters went on to tell the injustice done to Muslims by Hindus and thus justified the need for separate country. In the discussion pages Pakistanis blame all the time India for depriving them of Kashmir, Nizam and Junaghad and separation of Bangladesh from them. The politicians and press keep them busy on these issues to divert them from real issues. Never had they realized that they are the masters now and they are responsible for the state of affairs. They refuse to see growth in India and believe they are still better off than us. That is the blind faith. Please don’t think I am comparing demand from state to country. I am only exposing the interest of politicians in governance and not in real welfare of people.
Growth can’t be obtained from separate state or separate country. It has to be collective sincere effort. A state built on false promises will collapse soon as people expectations would be very high. All the people in Telangana are under the impression that miracles will happen if the Andhra exploiters(?) leave. Will it happen? In their place our own exploiters will take seat and continue to exploit us! We have to live with the birth pangs of new state.
Has anyone told what the repercussions of division are? There must be some gray areas in forming Telangana state. May be we can’t build any projects for next few decades as the water sharing can’t be decided. New capital may attract new projects and deprive us of jobs. We may run short of rice as Andhras will not be obliged to sell their surplus to us.
I wish to give replies to some of 108 facts here under:
1. Telangana inherited surplus budget was a fact. Why surplus, when it is such a backward area. Were there no projects to be taken up? Think carefully. Then you will understand what the state of affairs in our Telangana was at that time.
2. Size of catchment area, even if it is true figure, is not a factor to decide our share, the amount of water flowing in the catchment is major criteria. Do you think districts without river in their land are not eligible for river water?
3. As I know Tribunal was to allocate water between states and not for distribution within a state. Where did you get this data? Which is that tribunal that awarded this?
4. Canals are made with natural flow basis. Lifting back is thought of only if there is surplus after this and is possible only if there is enough power. If power is to be used for supply of water, it is better to go for borewells than using river water. Canals are dug in to areas where there is cultivatable land and not being cultivated for want of water. This gives fast results and hence the surplus in Rice production in AP. Just see even today we are not self sufficient in Power sector. Can you think of irrigation projects that need power to supply water?
5. Regarding list of backward districts, I request you to go back to records before you make such claims. Please see how many districts in Telangana were backward at the time of AP formation and then we should compare. Give list of districts that became forward from backward in AP.
6. What is the percentage of Industries in Telangana compared to Andhra and Rayalaseema? After that owners can be segregated in Telangana. Then also see how many PSUs are in Telangana compared to Seema-andhra. Telangana people will need to go all the way to Andhra region only when they do not find places to invest in Telangana. I wonder why relative of Jaipal reddy was to go all the way to Godavari. Did he not think of developing Telangana. That answers the harassment if any. Andhra people came all the way to Hyderabad because it is capital.
7. If the tenure of Telangana CMs was the factor in growth, Rayala seema should have become most developed. You know ther are several other factors. In fact well developed Godavari districts did not have single CM so far. Another advanced district Krishna could get any one from their district as CM under congress regime. Most powerful Yerram naidu and Devendra Goud in TDP did nothing to their areas when they were in power. So reasons are many for underdevelopment. Solution may not be in new state.
8. Projects must have started as per resources and economics. Huge port is developed at Vizag. Is it proper for everyone on the coast line talks of partiality for developing port at Vizag and depriving their area. Teluguganga was not a project of state. It was made with the money of Tamilnadu for drinking water supply to Tamilnadu. How could you find it a place (that too in first place) here.
9. Super Thermal stations belong to central government. Just because coal is ours we can’t demand full share of it. If minerals are our right, we would never ask for Petrol from Assam, Maharastra and Gas from Andhra (if formed). Nation has rights over it.
10. Free zone? Confused? Are you talking about UT status to Hyderabad? Andhras are foolish to demand for UT status to Hyderabad. It is their ploy to delay Telangana formation.
11. Literacy rate is to be compared not with other areas but with its rate from the time of AP formation. Or else rate of growth is to be compared. Telangana will be in lead if we compare rate of growth in literacy.
12. Same is the case with Hospitals. People from all over the state come to Telangana for treatment. So, who is better off in Medical services?
13. Number of Industries is not a criterion. Total employment is the real issue. The figures you gave are not real.
14. Less we talk about Nagarjun sagar and Polavaram better it is.
15. Excise collections and sales tax collections from Telangana are certainly great. Tell me, are the tax rates more in Telangana than in rest of state? Nop. It is because the production and consumption are more in Telangana. Then all the arguments made so far that our region being neglected are wrong.
16. Number of ‘heads of posts’ held by Telanganaits given here is not true.
17. Libraries were there much before AP formation. Nizam never developed in his area. They were there in Andhra area much before Independence.
18. Jublee hills lands were sold for cash by Telangana owners to buyers. They did not have reservation to sell to Telanganaites.
19. Ration card ‘golmaal’ was universal. If Mehaboobnagar did not get many, either they are sincere or they did not belong to Congress! By the by why did you compare these two districts. Do you want to say there should no ration card in state capital as it is the most developed place in AP?
20. What do you want to say by quoting Ambadkar on suitability of Hyderabad as Country’s capital? Do you want to say Andhras deprived it? If it were to become country’s capital, all the people of the country would have come to Hyderabad. We are unable to bear the presence of other region people in Hyderabad. (see your remark on jublee hills).
21. I think as I said you are not comparing brijal with brinjal. JNTU has set up 2 colleges in Rayala seema is a fact. But are there any more Engg colleges at that time. How many were there in Telangana prior to that. Better learn how those Engg colleges were brought under JNTU. This way of thinking will bring negative thought to us that will kill us soon.
22. Milk rate is based on its quality and several other factors. It is not based on region! I pity the way you are thinking.
23. True Telangana is bigger than 160 countries. But where are those countries? Except a few they do not grow? Did Nizam allow it to be bigger in any way except that he was the richest in the world?
24. You still seem to love Nizam and his Mulki rules. We should learn to excel not stand behind Mulki rules. We have so many private options now. Many of our people are working abroad. Yet you want to hide behind Mulki rules of 1919. What a pity!
25. Agitators get killed, it happened in jai Andhra movement and Vizag steel plant agitation. Do not blame someone else for that. That is hatred not judgment.
26. Water grid is a tall talk similar to Ganga –Godavry link. Better keep off.
Many of your points are somehow built up to reach 108. No worth in those to think of separate state.
One question, how long will it take for all districts in Telangana to be ‘equal’ in development if Separate state is formed? Will there be quota for people of all districts in jobs?
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Nrsattiraju
New Member
Yes I agree with you.we shall not fall in the trap of self interested leaders.
getin and 1762vijay -
Just put a little logic into our thinking process and see. Andhra and Seema are seperated from Telangana by logical uneven lines created by ourselves and you think people belonging to these regions will *naturally* become thieves and crooks while people in Telangana remain innocent and good?. Then God only can help your mindsets.
What's saddening is that instead of holding the collars of your politicians for not doign anything, you are crying rivers over other people like you which is a pity. May be this explains why the region is still underdeveloped (which is not true either).
You are unable to see the 'double dhamaka' enjoyed by your own politicians.
1. They are responsible for the mess so far because they didn't do anything other than earning their money. There were influencing people like Jana, Geetha, Jaipal etc., etc., that held respectable posts in the state and center. Ask them what they did!!
2. Now they are making your lives more miserable by brainwashing you because once the separate state comes, they are the ones who is going to get benefitted. The lives of these people will remain the same because they are the *same* politicians that are going to rule anyway!
Wake up and educate your fellow citizens. You should be fighting for development, not state!. Do something constructive. Can you do anything-else other than holding others responsible for your inability?
The students are proving that our education is a 'falthu' one. Forget about science, it is not teaching sense. They wasted two months of their time in destructing the state and their lives. If they spent that time and energy in promoting 'literacy', a lot of development could have happened.
What a pity!
PS: Well said Sridhara!. It is very easy to come up with 'facts' if we want to prove anything.
Just put a little logic into our thinking process and see. Andhra and Seema are seperated from Telangana by logical uneven lines created by ourselves and you think people belonging to these regions will *naturally* become thieves and crooks while people in Telangana remain innocent and good?. Then God only can help your mindsets.
What's saddening is that instead of holding the collars of your politicians for not doign anything, you are crying rivers over other people like you which is a pity. May be this explains why the region is still underdeveloped (which is not true either).
You are unable to see the 'double dhamaka' enjoyed by your own politicians.
1. They are responsible for the mess so far because they didn't do anything other than earning their money. There were influencing people like Jana, Geetha, Jaipal etc., etc., that held respectable posts in the state and center. Ask them what they did!!
2. Now they are making your lives more miserable by brainwashing you because once the separate state comes, they are the ones who is going to get benefitted. The lives of these people will remain the same because they are the *same* politicians that are going to rule anyway!
Wake up and educate your fellow citizens. You should be fighting for development, not state!. Do something constructive. Can you do anything-else other than holding others responsible for your inability?
The students are proving that our education is a 'falthu' one. Forget about science, it is not teaching sense. They wasted two months of their time in destructing the state and their lives. If they spent that time and energy in promoting 'literacy', a lot of development could have happened.
What a pity!
PS: Well said Sridhara!. It is very easy to come up with 'facts' if we want to prove anything.
108 non-facts
Thanks Nr. sattiraju and Jaggi for your remarks.
I wonder the silence of Jai Prakash Narayan(originator of 108 Facts).
Recently Jaya shankar was telling that Telangana people won't mind begging for a living. Is he planning to make us beg? Why should we beg for separate state and then beg for living? By the by whom are we to beg...any one except Andhras? Who are those that can give alms to total Telangana. Identify those and take a promise before we beg for separate state.
Mr. Jaya Shankar has been opposed to Telangana joining AP before the formation of AP. Then he was a student. Have we not changed our beliefs that we had as students? And he was having such an obsession (inferiority complex?) before start of so called exploitation by Andhras. Looks he is stubborn to prove his age old point rather than see truth. To prove his point he does not mind to sacrifice the lives of so many of us. He seems to be more dangerous than KCR. KCR is happy with the money he gets on this issue. His present goal is to own a TV channel at the cost of issue.
Thanks Nr. sattiraju and Jaggi for your remarks.
I wonder the silence of Jai Prakash Narayan(originator of 108 Facts).
Recently Jaya shankar was telling that Telangana people won't mind begging for a living. Is he planning to make us beg? Why should we beg for separate state and then beg for living? By the by whom are we to beg...any one except Andhras? Who are those that can give alms to total Telangana. Identify those and take a promise before we beg for separate state.
Mr. Jaya Shankar has been opposed to Telangana joining AP before the formation of AP. Then he was a student. Have we not changed our beliefs that we had as students? And he was having such an obsession (inferiority complex?) before start of so called exploitation by Andhras. Looks he is stubborn to prove his age old point rather than see truth. To prove his point he does not mind to sacrifice the lives of so many of us. He seems to be more dangerous than KCR. KCR is happy with the money he gets on this issue. His present goal is to own a TV channel at the cost of issue.
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pratyusha_y
New Member
Fundamentally my question is : what is that triggered this motion at this point of time? Where have all these opinions and problems gone before?? Why there was no consistency in a supposedly strong argument like this?
Again, any fact indicating an underdevelopment/poverty is common across the country.
Getting straight to the point of the repercussions
a) Students are losing their valuable time. 1 academic year might seem nothing to the politicians with assets worth hundreds/thousands of crores for their family and future generations. But to families with mediocre income, it means a lot.
b) exploitation of regional differences - just for few givt jobs/few govt seats that wouldn't account for 1% of total jobs/total educational seats.
c) Mafia and rowdies are ready to take advantage of any vulnerable situation like this.
d) no doubt Hyderabad is already identified as a mjor source for international terrorist activities. Are we inviting them to be free while we fight among ourselves
Blame the people for letting the fate country to be destroyed by corrupt politicians.There is no point in developing more disparities. India has already too many dividing factors which can be flared up any given point of time.
The time is to act collectively against the issues of poverty, irrigation, quality of education, political reform/transparency,terrorism etc.
There would be no serious improvements by forming a new state as long as people give in to the vicious wills of politicians.
Again, any fact indicating an underdevelopment/poverty is common across the country.
Getting straight to the point of the repercussions
a) Students are losing their valuable time. 1 academic year might seem nothing to the politicians with assets worth hundreds/thousands of crores for their family and future generations. But to families with mediocre income, it means a lot.
b) exploitation of regional differences - just for few givt jobs/few govt seats that wouldn't account for 1% of total jobs/total educational seats.
c) Mafia and rowdies are ready to take advantage of any vulnerable situation like this.
d) no doubt Hyderabad is already identified as a mjor source for international terrorist activities. Are we inviting them to be free while we fight among ourselves
Blame the people for letting the fate country to be destroyed by corrupt politicians.There is no point in developing more disparities. India has already too many dividing factors which can be flared up any given point of time.
The time is to act collectively against the issues of poverty, irrigation, quality of education, political reform/transparency,terrorism etc.
There would be no serious improvements by forming a new state as long as people give in to the vicious wills of politicians.
Well said Ms. Pratyusha.
Everyone knows that this issue was triggered by unemployment of Chenna Reddy in 1969 and now by unemployment of KCR. Certain people are to be kept busy otherwise their minds become devils workshops.
The catchy slogans really made young blood to boil. It is neither good for them nor for society.
It reminds me of one politician who won election by a catchy slogan. There was failure of crop in his constituency. He simply attributed it to the quality of irrigation water supplied. His claim was the water supplied is powerless as the hydro power plant was supplying water after taking power out of it!
This T issue is no better than that. It was an issue 'of the politicians, by the politicians and for the politicians'.
Bihar has abundant resources like water, minirals etc and has been a separate state ruled by Biharies. What is its development in 65 years? What matters is ‘the people’ we elect. Separate statehood is not going to change the state of affairs as long as we elect / select the same as our leaders.
Look at this KCR. He is not novice to politics. He served many terms and even as minister. See what he did before he took up this issue. Is he going to deliver goods if T state is carved out!
Everyone knows that this issue was triggered by unemployment of Chenna Reddy in 1969 and now by unemployment of KCR. Certain people are to be kept busy otherwise their minds become devils workshops.
The catchy slogans really made young blood to boil. It is neither good for them nor for society.
It reminds me of one politician who won election by a catchy slogan. There was failure of crop in his constituency. He simply attributed it to the quality of irrigation water supplied. His claim was the water supplied is powerless as the hydro power plant was supplying water after taking power out of it!
This T issue is no better than that. It was an issue 'of the politicians, by the politicians and for the politicians'.
Bihar has abundant resources like water, minirals etc and has been a separate state ruled by Biharies. What is its development in 65 years? What matters is ‘the people’ we elect. Separate statehood is not going to change the state of affairs as long as we elect / select the same as our leaders.
Look at this KCR. He is not novice to politics. He served many terms and even as minister. See what he did before he took up this issue. Is he going to deliver goods if T state is carved out!
Nice Bharatiya
New Member
Hyderabad is Great.
My Hyderabad is great. It has 400 years of history.
I want Hyderabad should be made separate state.
Hyderabad should be separated from Andhra Pradesh state. I am not concerned whether Telangana is formed or not.
1. Hyderabad is exploited by people of Coastal Andhra, Telangana and Rayalaseema. They came here and grabbed land from native Hyderabadis.
2. Revenue in Hyderabad is more than 50% of the revenue of total A.P. This revenue is diverted to other districted for their development.
3. Returns on real estate are the best in Hyderabad. Hence people of other districts are doing real estate business in Hyderabad depriving the right of Hyderabadis.
4. Hyderabad has been number 5 even before forming A.P. What did other district people do for growth of Hyderabad except grabbing land.
5. All the leaders from the districts come and stay in Hyderabad as MLAs. But they bring their goondas here making Hyderabad a Goonda Raj. If Hyderabad is made separate state, they will have no place and power here for those from districts.
Both people of Telangana and Andhra don’t want to lose Hyderabad so that they can exploit resources of this Mega-city. Let us not allow this to happen.
My Hyderabad is great. It has 400 years of history.
I want Hyderabad should be made separate state.
Hyderabad should be separated from Andhra Pradesh state. I am not concerned whether Telangana is formed or not.
1. Hyderabad is exploited by people of Coastal Andhra, Telangana and Rayalaseema. They came here and grabbed land from native Hyderabadis.
2. Revenue in Hyderabad is more than 50% of the revenue of total A.P. This revenue is diverted to other districted for their development.
3. Returns on real estate are the best in Hyderabad. Hence people of other districts are doing real estate business in Hyderabad depriving the right of Hyderabadis.
4. Hyderabad has been number 5 even before forming A.P. What did other district people do for growth of Hyderabad except grabbing land.
5. All the leaders from the districts come and stay in Hyderabad as MLAs. But they bring their goondas here making Hyderabad a Goonda Raj. If Hyderabad is made separate state, they will have no place and power here for those from districts.
Both people of Telangana and Andhra don’t want to lose Hyderabad so that they can exploit resources of this Mega-city. Let us not allow this to happen.
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Sourabh_singh
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Center should not divide the AP in two states. Division is not solution of actual problem. For example see the political and economical situation of Jharkhand. What happened with Jharkhand after divide from Bihar? The political situation could not stable till today after nine years of divide .
One EX Chief minister Madhu Koda looted four thausand Crore from treasury of state. Actually the local leaders who wants to loot unlimited money like Madhu Koda they demand for separate state for corruption and loot on their wish. Leader demands for these type separate state for their illegal source of income.
Central UPA Government should take care of all places of country. Otherwise the demands for separate state will be arise always.
One EX Chief minister Madhu Koda looted four thausand Crore from treasury of state. Actually the local leaders who wants to loot unlimited money like Madhu Koda they demand for separate state for corruption and loot on their wish. Leader demands for these type separate state for their illegal source of income.
Central UPA Government should take care of all places of country. Otherwise the demands for separate state will be arise always.
Our country is full of people like you that can't think beyond their ears and no wonder why India is getting divided on a daily basis. You are all becoming easy prey for these falthu politicians. Feel ashamed of you at least.
If Hyderabad is in this state, it's because of the people of AP (All regions) and others. NTRs, Chadrababu Naidus, YSRs etc., came from outside. They spent the money of rest of AP to develop Hyderabad. Ramoji Rao came from outside, movie stars came from outside, even the badshahs that built old Bagyanagar came from outside. What history are you talking about?
It became Mega-city because of the people that came from outside. Tomorrow someone will tell you to keep Old city and separate out Secunderabad and then Hi-tech city. There is no end to one's greed and selfishness.
Broaden your mind.
Brother , plz don't ignore the development that has been made in Hyderabad. It has emerged as the IT capital of India. Don't look at the negative sides. You need to look at the positive aspects too. The people of Andhra and Telengana have contributions in the development of Hyderabad. Plz try to understand that the power lies in Union, not in separation. Nobody is trying to grab anything from the Hyderabadis. Everyone is given equal right to compete.
I am not a person from Andhra or Telengana or Hyderabad. So, Plz take my views as neutral I am just expressing what I believe to be right.
Real Facts
Literacy in Telangana in 1951-52 was less than 2%. It improved to 46% by 2006-07. This rate of increase is much more than remaining area.
Number of schools increased at a rate of 412% in Telangana whereas in other areas it increased at a rate of 154% during 1951-52 to 2006-07.
Other info in so called 108 facts is certainly distorted similarly.
Please do not get carried away by bluff masters. They have their own agenda.
Literacy in Telangana in 1951-52 was less than 2%. It improved to 46% by 2006-07. This rate of increase is much more than remaining area.
Number of schools increased at a rate of 412% in Telangana whereas in other areas it increased at a rate of 154% during 1951-52 to 2006-07.
Other info in so called 108 facts is certainly distorted similarly.
Please do not get carried away by bluff masters. They have their own agenda.
elangana Sayudha Poratam, (Telangana armed struggle) was against Nizam facist rule, 4000 people died - inspired all subsequent land movements in West Bengal, Kerala and Tripura and paved way for formation of Communist governments in those States. This is never acknowledged by Seemandhra rulers so far.
Telangana Armed struggle.
That is great. You think all was well except Andhras. If communists were so great,
1.Why did they not start this much earlier to 1946, that is after British declared to leave us.
2. Its Ok Andhras are bad so they forgot the great service done by communists. How about people of Telangana. Why did they elect congress in the next elections 1952?
My dear friend half knowledge is dangerous.
That is great. You think all was well except Andhras. If communists were so great,
1.Why did they not start this much earlier to 1946, that is after British declared to leave us.
2. Its Ok Andhras are bad so they forgot the great service done by communists. How about people of Telangana. Why did they elect congress in the next elections 1952?
My dear friend half knowledge is dangerous.
angelinebrown
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Thousands of students are not attending to colleges and are doing nothing other than destructive activities in the name of movement. In the last two months, if they adopted some villages, a lot more development could have happened. They could have made some as literates at least...
Thousands of students are not attending to colleges and are doing nothing other than destructive activities in the name of movement. In the last two months, if they adopted some villages, a lot more development could have happened. They could have made some as literates at least...