Future of India-Pakistan relations

Discussion in 'Foreign Relations' started by Kaur, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. Kaur

    Kaur New Member

    India and Pakistan have fought wars in the past and both of them have a nuclear arsenal.Causing a treat to the whole of the world , if they have a war.

    What do you Proud Indians think should be done to strengthen the India Pakistan friendship and what steps should be taken by both the Countries ?

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  2. abn

    abn New Member

    Well we have a good news that Musharraf is not more as the President of Pakistan.The new goverment is believing in democracy. The Prime Minister Gilani has promised of fighting stongly against Terrisom . If that is done The Relationship could be better. Now the democrtic must try to make the relation better.But the condition is that Pakistan have to fight strongly against internal and external Terriest groups.
     
  3. christepher25

    christepher25 New Member

    Future of indo-pak relations

    how can one even think about peace process with a country which boosts infiltration n camps terrorists and uses them against us.every year thousands of innocent people dies in terrorist attacks in J&K n other parts of our country, and what we Indians and our politicians do is just beg for peace.

    to stop cancer to affect other parts of body it should be removed and cut out,same is with terrorism its like cancer n we have to cure it n cut its roots.peace is not the solution always.when other person wants a fight then return him with the same.
     
  4. amolkant

    amolkant New Member

    May Indo Pak Peace Prevail

    Yes I mean it. Indo Pak Nepal Srilanka Bangladesh subcontinent is future of tomorrow. No matter what. We are lagging in arsenal Yes we do, we are lagging behind in literacy Yes we do, we are having more population yes we do, we don't have transparency in systems Yes we do, we are not professionally trained yes we do. I agree with all of these but its my gut feeling that India is future super power.
     
  5. K.Prasad

    K.Prasad New Member

    well pakisan is pretty much India just diffrent name but there's way more muslims thats all
     
  6. mayankshukla1

    mayankshukla1 New Member

    Love dont die

    Pakistan and India were one and same thing.Because of few`s personal profit country was divided.

    Any time a stable democratic government comes in Pakistan and real Indian rules India (like atal Vihari Vajpyee and not any crap from Gandhi family) there will be a chance of un-divided India.
     
  7. adrenalin

    adrenalin New Member

    Threat perception regarding India necessitates dialogue: Pak PM

    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has always favoured dialogue over war and the "threat perception" regarding India necessitates talks to resolve all outstanding issues between the two countries, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said on Wednesday.

    "There is an intention (when) we say that there will be no war. But intentions can change anytime. There is a threat perception (regarding India), that's why we want dialogue," Gilani said in an interview with a TV news channel.

    He was responding to a question about contradictions in statements made by President Asif Ali Zardari and Pakistan Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.

    Zardari had said that there was no threat from India while Kayani had recently stated that the Pakistan Army is "India-centric".

    Gilani further said that the armed forces of the two countries were "naturally" centred towards each other.

    The premier appreciated "India's intention to resume talks", saying Pakistan has always favoured dialogue rather than war.

    Reiterating Pakistan's stance for the resumption of dialogue between the two countries, Gilani said "politicians make bridges, not walls".

    He noted that the Indian government headed by the Congress party had consented to resume the stalled peace process.

    Asked about his stand on a possible "no first use" policy for Pakistan's nuclear arsenal as he now heads the National Command Authority, Gilani replied: "I will not comment." Pakistan is a responsible state and will adhere to a policy of minimum nuclear deterrence, he said.

    Gilani also recalled his meeting with his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh at Sharm el-Sheikh in July last year and said Singh had invited him to visit Jaipur, which was his favourite city in India.

    However, Gilani said it was the turn of Indian leaders to come to Pakistan and added he would formally invite Singh to visit the country when they meet again.

    The premier spoke on a wide variety of subjects during the interview, including military appointments and the Supreme Court's judgement scrapping the National Reconciliation Ordinance, a graft amnesty that benefited Zardari and several federal ministers.

    Asked about the appointment of a new army chief, Gilani said no decision has yet been taken as there was a lot of time before Kayani completes his tenure at the year's end. Replying to a query about the possibility of Kayani being given an extension, he said, "I don't want to comment. It is much before time." Gilani described Kayani as "highly professional" and "pro-democracy". He said the army chief had good relations with the government.

    Source: htt p: //timesofindia. indiatimes. com/world/ pakistan/Threat-perception-regarding-India-necessitates-dialogue-Pak-PM/articleshow/5559119.cms
     
  8. adrenalin

    adrenalin New Member

    Peace with Pakistan: Chasing a mirage

    Peace with Pakistan is not possible in the foreseeable future. Those charged with the responsibility to safeguard our country and its citizens will do well to get a reality check and devise our defence posture accordingly, writes Colonel Dr Anil Athale (retd).

    The frozen peace process between India and Pakistan is in the news, again. A joint peace campaign has been started by an Indian and a Pakistani news organisation and a Bollywood star has jumped into the fray by regretting that Pakistani cricketers were not picked for the Indian Premier League.

    This ought to provide the Indian government and people an opportunity to take stock. After all the peace process, started in 1999 with Atal Bihari Vajpayee's famous bus ride to Lahore , is over 10 years old. This is a good occasion to take a dispassionate look at the past 10 years.

    But before we go into the subject proper, it is necessary to kill the nonsensical notion of 'keeping sports above politics'. The Bollywood star seems to have taken time out from his busy schedule of peddling men's fairness cream and junk food to take up the case of Pakistani cricketers
    . The usual suspect, the politically-correct media, has jumped on the bandwagon and there is an outcry. This seems to be a case of collective amnesia. For over two decades South Africa faced a sports boycott by most of the world. India was an enthusiastic cheerleader in this. Yes, apartheid was wrong, and so is jihadi terrorism!

    Even as some cry foul over the boycott of Pakistani players, most of the Arab and Muslim world merrily continue their boycott of Israeli sportspersons. Pakistan was at the forefront of boycotting the Moscow Olympics of 1980.

    My research trip to South Africa recently brought home the fact that sports boycotts hurt, and hurt badly. Why does Pakistani society not introspect and root out the extremists in their midst?

    The funny part is that our Bollywood star goes on to claim that as per Indian tradition 'Atithi Devo Bhava' (the guest is like God), he is pained that we are not honouring 'guests' from across our western border. He seems to have forgotten that just about a year and two months ago, 10 'guests' from the same country came to Mumbai and massacred nearly 180 people.

    While the media asks all and sundry, why not ask the thousands of relatives of victims of the 26/11 terror attacks as to what they feel about inviting Pakistani players when even now the mastermind Hafeez Saeed is free to continue to spread his hate ideology? I am quite conscious that I am in the company of a certain political party, but well, even they can be right sometimes.

    The root cause

    In June-July 2006, I participated in the goodwill mission between Mumbai and Karachi. Within a few days of our return from a goodwill trip to Karachi, the terrorists struck at Mumbai's local trains on July 11, killing more than 200 innocent people. But such is public memory in India that it has been forgotten totally. The pseudo-peaceniks and sundry busybodies now want Indians to forget the 26/11 Mumbai attacks and continue the peace process with Pakistan.

    Let me hasten to add that we met a lot of people of goodwill and peace in Pakistan. But most of them were part of the elite. There is no doubt about their sincerity as well. But there is a total disconnect between the elite and the masses. The biggest problem in the case of Pakistan is that civil society has very little influence over either the masses or the government.

    The argument then was and today is -- the jihadis want to derail the peace process, that is why they are doing it but we must continue with normal relations, sporting ties, cultural exchanges et al. All this while the Pakistanis deny any connection/responsibility towards these atrocities. I do not buy this argument. If the peace process is not capable of bringing about these minimum conditions, then it is useless. I publicly disassociated myself from this pointless exercise.

    We have had cultural exchanges, people to people contacts, sports ties and government level talks for over 11 years now (beginning with Vajpayee's Lahore bus trip), yet the terror attacks inspired from across the border have continued. Pakistani state and civil society remain as hostile as ever, barring a minor fringe of the candlelight brigade. Pakistanis are forever in a denial mode.

    Due to the courage of Tukaram Omble of the Mumbai police, we managed to catch one terrorist alive during the Mumbai attacks. If this did not happen, the Pakistanis would have continued to deny any role in the attacks.
    What Pakistan needs is a major surgery, while we are trying to apply bandaid. I do not think the Indians who advocate peace and normalcy have any understanding of the root cause of all this, that is the systematic brainwashing of their young students with hate for the last 20 years.

    Peace with Pakistan will remain a mirage for the foreseeable future. Those charged with the responsibility to safeguard our country and its citizens will do well to get a reality check and devise our defence posture accordingly. One can't but quote an old George Washington saying, 'If you want peace, be prepared for war!'

    Colonel Dr Anil Athale (retd) is coordinator of the Pune-based Inpad and a Chhattrapati Shivaji Fellow working on insurgency.

    htt p:/ /news. rediff.com /column /2010/feb/11 / peace-with-pakistan-chasing-a-mirage.htm
     
  9. crazysarah

    crazysarah New Member

    There is no hope seen in the near future to do peaceful setting with Pakistan.. Its been a country which always demand blood and Kashmir.. Indians are not ready to give it as it is the heaven of India on earth.. The fight seems to be continues and no peaceful settlement would be done as of now..
     
  10. quizzycal

    quizzycal New Member

    Indo-Pak relationship

    India is a peace loving country. Our motto is to maintain good relationship with the neighboring countries. We have a strong democratic background and economically more advanced than Pakistan. From the inception of Pakistan the leaders of that country tried to destabilize the peace and harmony of India. And this will continue even in the future days and the Indians got the evidence of their action through the terrorists attack on different parts of India. However our government is always propagating to maintain normal relationship with Pakistan.
     
  11. Idiotbox

    Idiotbox New Member

    keeping all the sentiments and emotions apart i would rationally like to say that india and pakistan do not have very bright future together as the people of both the nations are not willing to join hands together,. no matter how far we get educated and broad minded, the indian-pakistani instincts will not allow us to be together, but anything can happen :p its just my view
     
  12. Idiotbox

    Idiotbox New Member

    both india and pakistan need to change their stance against each other. just having talks and airing views would not change any situation which is existing between both the nations. pakistan should understand india is a peaceful country and we do not want any violence so it should not air irrational views of its own.
     
  13. Leader

    Leader New Member

    The relations of India and Pakistan has been deteriorated day by day and is still in a very bad phase. No mater how much dealings and talks are done with Pakistan the result will always be nil. The relationship is never going to become strong, in case something happens then it would only be formality. the bond that comes within will not be there and the hatred resides in the heart of the people from both sides. Though there are few people who might talk about peace but the majority talks about hatred. thats sad part but true!
     
  14. neelimaroja

    neelimaroja New Member

    Both india and pakistan need to talk each other openly about their problems.
     
  15. Leader

    Leader New Member

    i don't see any good changes in India Pakistan relation as they are becoming worst day by day, but I think there is sure an end of this fight. people are not that harsh and full of hatred in both the countries but its all created by mere group of people. They are simply fighting on the name of jihad and land. No religion teaches to fight and let down other religion..
     
  16. Greatindia

    Greatindia New Member

    in my view i do not see india and pakistan having any friendly and peaceful relations. pakistan always seems to play tactics with india by acting friendly and making promises but later on turning away from the promises made. if this goes in the same way, india and pakistan cannot move hand in hand and india will have to have a strong stand against pakistan. india should stop seeking its help in any matters for it has always been futile to seek its help.
     
  17. Leader

    Leader New Member

    India-Pakistan are the best in locking their horns.
    There are many issues between India and Pakistan which cannot be settled easily. Why because we Indians cannot easily forget what they have done to us. And Pakistanis are not likely to take the wrong-side on what happened to India from Pakistan. So I say, there won’t be any peace maker between these two countries
     
  18. newsonline11

    newsonline11 New Member

    The efforts of establishing peaceful relationship with Pakistan will be fruitful only when Pakistan leader will take interest and look into the matters of terrorism initiated by India. However, Pakistan always shows keen interest in such matter, but never reacted against terrorism intentionally. Thus, commitment and proper consideration of this country is requite to deal with the imbalanced Political relationship!
     

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